***BOGO*** Re: Accessing Secnews

[Jay Garcia <Jay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On 10.07.2008 13:09, Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

> Jay Garcia wrote:
>> On 09.07.2008 11:12, Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T wrote:
>> 
>>  --- Original Message ---
>> 
>>> Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
>>>> Jay Garcia wrote:
>>>>> On 08.07.2008 21:35, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  --- Original Message ---
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jay Garcia wrote:
>>>>>>> On 08.07.2008 18:02, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  --- Original Message ---
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jay Garcia wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 08.07.2008 05:08, Ralph Fox wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  --- Original Message ---
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 15:27:10 -0400, in message 
>>>>>>>>>> <cKWdnU_r2oATgezVnZ2dnUVZ_oLinZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
>>>>>>>>>> Phillip Jones, CET wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then, solution is to edit the configuration ("about:config" 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> location/address bar in Seamonkey or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tools->Options->Advanced->General->Config Editor in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thunderbird) and enable:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) "security.ssl3.rsa_rc4_40_md5" (change to "True")
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) "security.enable_ssl2" (change to "True")
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can access and post without the certificates
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> But do you still have those lines "true" in about:config ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Have bad news report. In SeaMonkey 2 a1pre even if the changes 
>>>>>>>>>>> above are made netscape.test.multimedia doesn't exist. there is 
>>>>>>>>>>> one called test.moderated but not test Multimedia
>>>>>>>>>> There are two different news servers hosted on secnews.netscape.com
>>>>>>>>>> They are normally accessed with different settings...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> A.  Port = 119
>>>>>>>>>>     "[ ]  Use secure connection (SSL)" -- not checked
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> B.  Port = 563
>>>>>>>>>>     "[X]  Use secure connection (SSL)" -- checked
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Server 'A' has newsgroup "netscape.test.moderated" but not 
>>>>>>>>>> "netscape.test.multimedia"
>>>>>>>>>> Server 'B' has newsgroup "netscape.test.multimedia"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It appears that you are communicating with server 'A'.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Are your settings as in 'B'?
>>>>>>>>>> If so, then do you have two news server accounts configured in
>>>>>>>>>> SM with the same domain "secnews.netscape.com", the other account
>>>>>>>>>> set up as in 'A'?  In this case, try changing one of the two
>>>>>>>>>> domains from "secnews.netscape.com" to "secnews.aoltw.net".
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To see ALL the groups on secnews you only have to have port 563
>>>>>>>>> configured, no need to have a second server configured for port 
>>>>>>>>> 119. All
>>>>>>>>> the groups can be subscribed to but on port 119, the SSL groups 
>>>>>>>>> cannot
>>>>>>>>> be seen OR accessed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> if you have port 563 configured, then you also have to have SSL 
>>>>>>>> checked, correct?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you check the SSL box, 563 will automagically populate the port box.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> but some don't know that.  Thats why you need to state that part.
>>>>>>
>>>>> It doesn't matter, users are instructed to tick the SSL box and when
>>>>> they do that, 563 is automatic.
>>>>>
>>>> but thats not what you instructed Phil to do.  You said: "have to have 
>>>> port 563 configured. . .  ."  That sounds like you told him to change 
>>>> the port from 119 to 563.  You didn't say to make sure that SSL is 
>>>> checked and the port will change to 563.
>>>>
>>> Whether I was told one way or the other . The fact is in SM 2 for now 
>>> setting SSL is broken (or not turned on) I I can check SSL al day long 
>>> till the cows come home and the setting does not stick.
>>>
>>> There are many items that do not stick and in order to make them do one 
>>> thing or the other you have to go to about:config and set them.
>>>
>>> Another example I have one newsgroup I go to on annexcafe.com that has 
>>> to have authentication turned.
>>>
>>> But to make that work I must go to about:config and turn that on. But 
>>> then if its turned on its turned on for everything. So there is much 
>>> that is severely broken in SM2 as I said it will be 2 years before they 
>>> get all the bugs out.
>>>
>>> I'll just test it from time to time and see what happens.
>>>
>> 
>> I am using SM2 to post this. I installed it and opted to migrate from
>> Thunderbird which was successful right out the box.
>> 
>> Jay
> what I am in process of doing is setup everything correct in SM1.x Then 
> I will remove everything to to with SM2 and have it re import and see if 
> that works.
> 
> But that only mask the Problems if it does.  By the way according to the 
> time stamp in the  message I am posting to you are operating about 28 
> days into the future. If you'll look at the top of this and trace all of 
> your post the show 08 07 2008 which mean August 07, 2008
> 

The date in the header for your message that I am replying to:

NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 13:09:16 -0500
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:09:16 -0400

This is correct, Thu 10-July is July 10th. The message that you are
referring to is also correct 8-7-2008 which is 8-JULY-2008, not August.



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